Kudos to Matt Walsh, a conservative Christian author and activist, who participated in a Dr. Phil show with two “non-binary,” “transgender” activists. He explained the truth about the false “gender ideology” that has swept across our culture, courageously speaking before a hostile audience.

Walsh, with truth, respectfulness and civility, countered and questioned the ideology of LGBT activists Addison, born male but now identifying as “non-binary,” and Ethan, who was born female but now says she’s “non-binary/trans-masculine.”

Host of The Matt Walsh Show at The Daily Wire, Walsh has written The Unholy Trinity: Blocking the Left’s Assault on Life, Marriage, and Gender; Church of Cowards: A Wake-Up Call to Complacent Christians; and a book for children, Johnny the Walrus, about a boy who plays at being a walrus – a pretense his mom and others treat as real.

Walsh said that his goal before the show was to keep things simple and not get lost in the weeds and confusion of “transgender” rhetoric. He uses humor, common sense and logic to make his points.

The activists spent a lot of time trying to explain to Dr. Phil McGraw, host of the show, transgender language and ideology. They worked to separate the physical reality of sex – being male or female, from so-called “gender identity” – how a person feels or thinks.

Addison said, “We need to realize that ‘transwomen’ are women and ‘trans men’ are men, too.”

Walsh said, “Well, this is one of the problems with this left-wing gender ideology, is that no one who espouses it can even tell you what these words mean.” He then asked, “What is a woman? Can you tell me what a woman is?”

Ethan said, “No, I can’t. Because it’s not for me to say. Womanhood looks different for everybody.”

Addison said, “Womanhood is something that, as Ethan just explained, I cannot define, because I am not myself a woman.” Addison later reduced “being a woman” to a person’s self-identity – to an individual’s subjective thoughts or feelings – untethered from reality.

Walsh knows, on the other hand, that “woman” has a biological reality – being female, born with XY chromosomes and having female reproductive organs. He politely and clearly made his point: Humans come in two forms – male and female. We don’t redefine all of humanity because some struggle with this or because “gender ideology” tries to tell us something different.

The wide-ranging conversation went on to discuss pronouns, along with activists demands that people be forced to use gender-confused individuals’ pronouns of choice. Addison said that his pronouns are “they/them,” while Ethan said her pronouns are “he/they.”

Walsh said, “You can have whatever self-perception you want. But you can’t expect me to take part in that self-perception, or to take part in this kind of this charade, this theatrical production.

“You don’t get your own pronouns, just like you don’t get your own prepositions or your own adjectives. It’s like if I were to tell you, my adjectives are handsome and brilliant, and whenever you’re talking about me, you have to describe me as handsome and brilliant, because that’s how I identify.”

Along with some parents and a professor, the group also discussed privacy and safety in showers, restrooms and locker rooms. Walsh and the parents want sex-segregated facilities for men and women, rather than opening these spaces to anyone based on how they “identify.”

Walsh said the left cares only about the feelings of those with sexual identity confusion, but they dismiss the concerns of girls who don’t want boys in their private facilities (or vice versa, for that matter).

Right after Walsh brought up the case of the gender-confused boy who raped a teen girl  in a Loudoun County Public Schools restroom, Suzy D’Enbeau, assistant professor in the Communications Studies Department at Kent State University, said, “I’m not trying to minimize your concerns around it, but I don’t know that it’s a safety issue.”

Thus, she totally minimized his concerns and those of girls who don’t want male bodies in their private spaces. Watch the video:

Walsh also explained the importance of pushing back against “gender” rhetoric. When asked by D’Enbeau why he cares so much about this issue, he explained, “I care about the truth…I care about children and these insane ideas about gender are being foist on kids…I care about the women who are having their opportunities stolen from them.”

Walsh gave important reasons why all Christians should be concerned about these issues and why we should oppose “gender ideology” – even while we love and care for those struggling with sexual identity brokenness.

Addison and Ethan run a consulting firm in Los Angeles called “Break the Binary,” where they’ve “performed numerous trainings, workshops, and speaking engagements for organizations and conferences throughout the state of California and beyond.”

The Los Angeles County Department of Mental Health, Occidental College, USC Keck School of Medicine and the 2026 White House-convened conference “Advancing LGBT Progress in Rural America” are listed among places they’ve presented, illustrating how far this ideology has permeated into every area of our world.

Despite Walsh’s clarity and calm demeanor on Dr. Phil, both “non-binary”-identified guests were upset about their gender ideology being questioned.

Walsh tweeted posts from Addison and Ethan saying they’ve “been experiencing a heightened level of anxiety,” nightmares and “depression spirals” since the taping. They claimed they were “attacked by another guest and played by the producers” and asked people to send them “good vibes.”

Rather than sending vibes, believers should pray for the salvation and healing of these troubled individuals.

Walsh was a model of civility and respectfulness – even when completely disagreeing with LGBT activists and allies on Dr. Phil. He didn’t attack them as individuals, but he did question their beliefs and explain the truth.

Likewise, we encourage all believers to understand the truth about this issue, and speak kindly and respectfully to those who distort God’s good design for humanity.

Related articles and resources:

Dr. Phil is available on Hulu, but a short version of the episode is available on McGraw’s YouTube channel: Both Sides of the Gender Pronoun Debate

Focus on the Family: Transgender Resources

How Did We Get To This Gender-Confused Place?

Male and Female: Why It Matters in the Culture and Public Policy

“Transgenderism” Brings Chaos from Order

What Does it Mean to Be Trans, Anyway?

Who is Included in the ‘Transgender Umbrella?’

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